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Hinotsu Academy Student
Number of posts : 5 Age : 35 Location : Candyland What's up? : Shoogar. D: Registration date : 2008-06-16
Character Status Rank: Academy Student Expertise: Taijutsu Village: Sound
| Subject: An Idea, more a revamp. Mon Jun 23, 2008 3:07 am | |
| Alright, well..I'm well aware of the fact that this site is new, and that everything may not have been worked out?
Especially the stats system. If you're going to have a stats system raw percentages are never something that will work. Especially since, as this revolves around ninja, there is going to be alot of PvP. Dur, right?
So, anyway, onto my actual suggestion..
Speed as a chance to hit your opponent? Not so much, because to be honest Someone boosts nothing but speed and an Offensive? And depending on how the mods see fit to mod it? Well, there's not chance for anyone to win, right? Dead in a couple of posts.
Pump agility you say? Bleh, skill and detail should be a determining factor in dodging attack, as well as in connecting with them.
On to something else that was mentioned;
Percents..?
Not effective at all, add a new stat(s):
Willpower: This stat x25 = HP
Control: This stat x25 = Chakra
Determination: How much damage is reduced from any attack. This stat, can of course have a determined cap. I suggest a per level system. Anywhere between 20-30 per level.
This will bring a new element into the game, aswell as defined Chakra/HP pools. Makes PvP More interesting, and skill can become a determining factor. Strategy becomes important, aswell.
That's all for the new stats, on to how we can revamp the old ones, mostsly defenses. Since, Offensive one's will be used with something else. That, of course, will be explained later.
Endurance: This is your taijutsu defense(dur). All taijutsu based attacks inflicted upon you deal ([Endurance+Determination]*1.2) less damage.
Right Brain: This is your Ninjutsu Defense(again, dur). All Ninjutsu based attacks inflicted upon you deal ([Right Brain+Determination]*1.2) less damage
Logic: This is your Genjutsu Defense. All Genjutsu based attacks inflicted upon you deal ([Logic+Determination]*1.2) less damage.
Agility: How fast you can move, and react to your opponents movements. Your speed/Opponents speed = 2 or more, you may attack once more per post. This means this stat will moste surely need to be capped off, so that someone cannot attack more than three times per post. This, will only apply to physical attacks with weapons, and Basic Taijutsu. Not weapon Jutsu. Basic Physical Attacks.
Speed has been removed, because your chance to successully connect with an attack in RP should be determined by how well you have setup your attacks, and how well you've described your actions.
Onto offensive stats:
Offensive stats will work only as a modifer to determine how much damage you inflict with Weapons, Basic Taijutsu, Basic Chakra, And their advanced forms. This means that Jutsu damage will be determined by your strengths. Joy.
But, for battle calculations we'd need another few stats? Jutsu Efficiency: Determines how efficient you are with Chakra based Jutsu:
Taijutsu Efficiency: Determines how efficient you are with Taijutsu.
Weapon Effieciency: Determines how efficient you are with Weapons.
It's not the Offensive stats themselves, but the Jutsu that will determine how much damage you can deal. This means, each jutsu will have to be reworked to accomodate this new system.
An example: Let's take Iron Fist: Say you had 20 in Strength, and 32 in Taijutsu Efficiency..You'd add both of them together to get 52, right? Alright now, depending on when the Jutsu is available we'd multiply it by a predetermined Jutsu modifer With something available at genin, let's use .6, alright? So 52*.6 = 31.2, correct? So, the Calculations for Iron fist would be: Strength+Effeciency*.6
It's VERY simple.
Now to work around an Idea posted by one of our members, Oversoul.
Chakra Affiliations. This one is an easy Idea. If your chakra matches the element type of a jutsu you use, this jutsu naturally becomes stronger. I suggest a modifier between .2-6 depending on your Ninja Rank.
An example I suppsose..? Generic Fire Jutsu: Right Brain + Jutsu Efficiency = Damage. Then you take your damage, if you're alligned with the Fire Type chakra and multiply it by .3. Say you had 500 Damage. 500*.3 = 150. So, your new damage would be, Damage + Affiliation = 650.
We would of course need to setup a system to determine how opposites should affect each other. Something to do with defense, I'm sure.
---- With the addition of new stats, the bonus you gain from character creation may need to be increased to 150. Characters already created will need to have their threads modified. They will gain the difference in stats as a bonus. An extra 86 stats to whatever they've already got. ----
I do not care if this is denied, infact I'm sure it will be. But I do hope that it will atleast be reviewed, and considered before it's trashed. It's just that it's really difficult to PvP, or really..fight aything with the way the stats work now.
I'm sorry if I've confused, or insulted anyone. It's not what I meant by this post.
Thank you for your time, Hinotsu.
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| Subject: Re: An Idea, more a revamp. Mon Jun 23, 2008 3:18 am | |
| i see a point in what he says =/
but now it all depends on Alby and Mai x.x |
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Albanox 最初影
Number of posts : 348 Age : 31 Location : Ninjaville. What's up? : Not much. >_> Registration date : 2008-06-04
Character Status Rank: Raikage Expertise: Taijutsu Village: Village hidden by Lightning
| Subject: Re: An Idea, more a revamp. Mon Jun 23, 2008 6:56 am | |
| I'd been thinking of this for a while, but was not quite sure how to implement it... I think it'd be a good idea to get Hinotsu's help with this stuff. >_> Good though. I'm still not exactly sure how we'd do the chakra affiliation. Like... do we get to determine that our chakra is ... (ie) Taijutsu type? So then as long as we use tai, it takes off more? Well with expertise, I figure most people are gonna specialize in one offense anyway so... I'm not sure now if it's even needed. >_> | |
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Maifury Admin
Number of posts : 767 Age : 42 Location : ... What's up? : ...the sky? Registration date : 2008-06-09
Character Status Rank: Mizukage Expertise: Genjutsu Village: Village Hidden in the Mist
| Subject: Re: An Idea, more a revamp. Mon Jun 23, 2008 10:29 am | |
| n.n constructive criticism is how we all improve right? So yeah it may take some work, but I think if it makes the gaming procedure run more smoothly and efficiently, as well as makes everything standardized, I'm all for it. *glompelsh* thx for the constructive ideas! Change may not be easy, but if you don't change and adapt you become extinct!! | |
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Hinotsu Academy Student
Number of posts : 5 Age : 35 Location : Candyland What's up? : Shoogar. D: Registration date : 2008-06-16
Character Status Rank: Academy Student Expertise: Taijutsu Village: Sound
| Subject: Re: An Idea, more a revamp. Mon Jun 23, 2008 4:45 pm | |
| I have absolutely no problem helping you guys out with anything you need. I simply want to see the site grow. I'm sure if the Admins, Mods, and Myself all got together sometime we could find a way to work out what I've suggested.
As for chakra affinities, they've really go nothing to do with with the type of jutsu you specialize in. It's just what element your chakra is aligned to. Hrm, five elements. I believe they were Earth, Wind, Water, Fire, and Lightning? Though, Since Taijutsu specialists won't be using Elemental Jutsu for the most part, I'm sure we could come up with something to balance it all out. | |
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Oversoul Chuunin
Number of posts : 234 Age : 32 Location : Somewhere What's up? : O.o Registration date : 2008-06-15
Character Status Rank: Tetsukage Expertise: Weapons Village: Village Hidden by Steel
| Subject: Re: An Idea, more a revamp. Mon Jun 23, 2008 10:28 pm | |
| Taijutsu users can have chakra implemented into their jutsus. Such as, take Sakura as an example, she is strong cause she can focus chakra into a blow. Making the blow extremely powerful. Thus when they use a taijutsu attack, they innately focus chakra onto the attack (without taking any cost from CP) making it x.3 just as an element.
Elements can be self determined or somehow become random? Or even based on a village. Leaf Village = Primarily Fire, Secondary Wind. Mist Village = Primarily Water, Secondary Wind. Sand Village = Primarily Wind, Secondary Lightning (Taken from Gaara's technique to use sand as a conductor). Steel Village = Primarily Wind, (Asuma using Wind chakra in weapons to pump up power) Secondary Lightning (Raiga using lighting in his weapons). Lightning Village = Primarily Lightning, Secondary Wind/Fire.
Just a thought :/
If this goes through. I would like permission to change my stats and perhaps clan/Bloodline. maybe, Depends on how things work out. | |
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testfag Academy Student
Number of posts : 12 Age : 65 Location : Japan. What's up? : Skirts. Registration date : 2008-06-23
Character Status Rank: Academy Student Expertise: Ninjutsu Village: Pedophilia village
| Subject: Re: An Idea, more a revamp. Mon Jun 23, 2008 11:09 pm | |
| >_> If this goes through, you're going to have to change your stats anyway. >_> | |
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Oversoul Chuunin
Number of posts : 234 Age : 32 Location : Somewhere What's up? : O.o Registration date : 2008-06-15
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| Subject: Re: An Idea, more a revamp. Mon Jun 23, 2008 11:11 pm | |
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Albanox 最初影
Number of posts : 348 Age : 31 Location : Ninjaville. What's up? : Not much. >_> Registration date : 2008-06-04
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| Subject: Re: An Idea, more a revamp. Mon Jun 23, 2008 11:15 pm | |
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Oversoul Chuunin
Number of posts : 234 Age : 32 Location : Somewhere What's up? : O.o Registration date : 2008-06-15
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| Subject: Re: An Idea, more a revamp. Mon Jun 23, 2008 11:19 pm | |
| No comments on my suggestion >.> I see how it is, just take Hinostu's advice >.> see if I care Q_Q *sulks* XDD | |
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Albanox 最初影
Number of posts : 348 Age : 31 Location : Ninjaville. What's up? : Not much. >_> Registration date : 2008-06-04
Character Status Rank: Raikage Expertise: Taijutsu Village: Village hidden by Lightning
| Subject: Re: An Idea, more a revamp. Mon Jun 23, 2008 11:20 pm | |
| Good idea. But I'm pretty sure it would have to take chakra, or people could use it nonstop. >_> | |
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Oversoul Chuunin
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| Subject: Re: An Idea, more a revamp. Mon Jun 23, 2008 11:21 pm | |
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Maifury Admin
Number of posts : 767 Age : 42 Location : ... What's up? : ...the sky? Registration date : 2008-06-09
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| Subject: Re: An Idea, more a revamp. Mon Jun 23, 2008 11:24 pm | |
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Albanox 最初影
Number of posts : 348 Age : 31 Location : Ninjaville. What's up? : Not much. >_> Registration date : 2008-06-04
Character Status Rank: Raikage Expertise: Taijutsu Village: Village hidden by Lightning
| Subject: Re: An Idea, more a revamp. Mon Jun 23, 2008 11:25 pm | |
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Maifury Admin
Number of posts : 767 Age : 42 Location : ... What's up? : ...the sky? Registration date : 2008-06-09
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| Subject: Re: An Idea, more a revamp. Mon Jun 23, 2008 11:27 pm | |
| oh it's on the 24th? happy early 50th pedo then : P | |
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Hinotsu Academy Student
Number of posts : 5 Age : 35 Location : Candyland What's up? : Shoogar. D: Registration date : 2008-06-16
Character Status Rank: Academy Student Expertise: Taijutsu Village: Sound
| Subject: Re: An Idea, more a revamp. Mon Jun 23, 2008 11:30 pm | |
| I understand where Oversoul is going with his suggestion, and to be honest it's not too bad. It's basically everything the users of Elemental Ninjutsu would get.
Though, your Idea could use a little work. Taijutsu generally don't have an element attached to them. Infact I've never seen taijutsu with an Element. Gai's Asa Kujaku doesn't count, considering the flames that resulted from that were mainly caused by speed, and friction. How? Yeah, you got me there. >->
I propose that instead of having your Taijutsu powered up like Elemental jutsu's, we gain the ability to generate certain effects depending on the user's chakra type.
Let's take fire as another example, since it's the easiest one to explain.
Let's say, I simply focus my chakra into my fist, and strike my opponent. Because the nature of my chakra is Fire I burn parts of the users body, resulting in a continuous burn effect for so many turns. Think Pokemon, I suppose since it's the easiest way to get the point across. The modifer could be something along the lines of.. Damage *.01 = Burn damage taken over the next three rounds. So, if we had 500 points of initial damage *.01. Folks? That would equal an extra 5 damage to the opponent over the next three rounds. This can of course be strengthened depending on what the Admins/Mods decide.
As for how Affinities are decided, I suggest a random Dice roll, executed by Albanox. Just a normal ten-sided die would work the best. Unless you've gotten your hands on a five-sided..somehow? >->;
1- Fire 2. Water 3. Earth 4. Wind 5. Lightning 6. Fire 7. Water 8. Earth 9. Wind 10. Lightning
So, either way you have the same chance of getting one element as everyone else. But, if you don't have a ten-sided die..I could help handle that? Considering I've got an entire container full from when I played L5R.
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Albanox 最初影
Number of posts : 348 Age : 31 Location : Ninjaville. What's up? : Not much. >_> Registration date : 2008-06-04
Character Status Rank: Raikage Expertise: Taijutsu Village: Village hidden by Lightning
| Subject: Re: An Idea, more a revamp. Mon Jun 23, 2008 11:33 pm | |
| I know I've got at least one. >_> | |
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Oversoul Chuunin
Number of posts : 234 Age : 32 Location : Somewhere What's up? : O.o Registration date : 2008-06-15
Character Status Rank: Tetsukage Expertise: Weapons Village: Village Hidden by Steel
| Subject: Re: An Idea, more a revamp. Mon Jun 23, 2008 11:34 pm | |
| You play Legend of 5 Rings O_O I have never met anyone else that does xDDDDDDD and Umm..you are kinda wrong....Kakashi Hatake uses Taijutsu and he has an element o.o He exceeds Gai in Taijutsu, considering Kakashi knows the Eight Gates Technique. | |
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Maifury Admin
Number of posts : 767 Age : 42 Location : ... What's up? : ...the sky? Registration date : 2008-06-09
Character Status Rank: Mizukage Expertise: Genjutsu Village: Village Hidden in the Mist
| Subject: Re: An Idea, more a revamp. Mon Jun 23, 2008 11:34 pm | |
| xD *has the whole dnd set* oh wait no i don't....xD they're up there....send 'em down alby >.< | |
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Albanox 最初影
Number of posts : 348 Age : 31 Location : Ninjaville. What's up? : Not much. >_> Registration date : 2008-06-04
Character Status Rank: Raikage Expertise: Taijutsu Village: Village hidden by Lightning
| Subject: Re: An Idea, more a revamp. Mon Jun 23, 2008 11:38 pm | |
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Hinotsu Academy Student
Number of posts : 5 Age : 35 Location : Candyland What's up? : Shoogar. D: Registration date : 2008-06-16
Character Status Rank: Academy Student Expertise: Taijutsu Village: Sound
| Subject: Re: An Idea, more a revamp. Mon Jun 23, 2008 11:41 pm | |
| No, no. You missed what I said. I said that the Taijutsu themselves don't have an Element. I didn't say anything about the User themselves.
And yes, L5R. Crane, imo. >-> | |
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Oversoul Chuunin
Number of posts : 234 Age : 32 Location : Somewhere What's up? : O.o Registration date : 2008-06-15
Character Status Rank: Tetsukage Expertise: Weapons Village: Village Hidden by Steel
| Subject: Re: An Idea, more a revamp. Mon Jun 23, 2008 11:43 pm | |
| Oh >.> Okay. Crane e.e I hate them....I prefer Rattlings | |
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Oversoul Chuunin
Number of posts : 234 Age : 32 Location : Somewhere What's up? : O.o Registration date : 2008-06-15
Character Status Rank: Tetsukage Expertise: Weapons Village: Village Hidden by Steel
| Subject: Re: An Idea, more a revamp. Mon Jun 23, 2008 11:46 pm | |
| Oh, sorry I was gone for the whole day X______x I was busy making armor for this FF rpg I am beta testing atm. | |
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